Hello everyone!
I am new to the entropy calculation from vib frequencies. I have attached a completed vib freq calculation with some surface atoms(17) included and I am trying to identify the modes responsible for entropy contribution in the adsorbed state. I see a lot of literature where people consider all modes above 200 cm-1. However, a diatomic molecule like CO can only have 3N modes on the surface of which two could be due to hindered translation. The hindered modes would be the first two that are near zero? So for the total entropic contribution, how should I consider the modes from the freq.dat file?
It would be great if you could help me understand this! Thank you!
Regards,
Keerthan.
Identifying vib modes that contribute to entropy
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Identifying vib modes that contribute to entropy
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Re: Identifying vib modes that contribute to entropy
For convenience, here's the freq.dat file:
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Re: Identifying vib modes that contribute to entropy
Hi Keerthan,
You will have to be a little careful about how to convert these frequencies to the entropy of the system. First though, if you are at a temperature where you can consider all of these modes as harmonic, then you can calculate the harmonic vibrational entropy using all of the modes. Note that you will almost certainly be calculating a difference in entropy or a free energy difference and so the most important issue is to consider a consistent set of modes in the two states that you care about. If you want to focus on the CO molecule, that could be fine, but you can't just guess at which modes are associated with CO. For that, you can look at the modes.dat file. A quick look shows that the highest frequency modes is the C-O stretch (as you would expect) but the 4-6th highest modes are also associated with CO. We have a simple script: dymmodes2xyz.pl , which can help make movies of the modes so that you can visualize them. Then, if you want to go beyond the harmonic approximation, for example, hindered translation, then I think you would want a diffusion barrier for translation, rather than just a vibrational frequency in the binding site.
Graeme
You will have to be a little careful about how to convert these frequencies to the entropy of the system. First though, if you are at a temperature where you can consider all of these modes as harmonic, then you can calculate the harmonic vibrational entropy using all of the modes. Note that you will almost certainly be calculating a difference in entropy or a free energy difference and so the most important issue is to consider a consistent set of modes in the two states that you care about. If you want to focus on the CO molecule, that could be fine, but you can't just guess at which modes are associated with CO. For that, you can look at the modes.dat file. A quick look shows that the highest frequency modes is the C-O stretch (as you would expect) but the 4-6th highest modes are also associated with CO. We have a simple script: dymmodes2xyz.pl , which can help make movies of the modes so that you can visualize them. Then, if you want to go beyond the harmonic approximation, for example, hindered translation, then I think you would want a diffusion barrier for translation, rather than just a vibrational frequency in the binding site.
Graeme
Re: Identifying vib modes that contribute to entropy
Hello Graeme,
Thank you so much for helping me understand this! I was able to visualize the modes with dymmodes2xyz.pl script! Have a nice day!
Regards,
Keerthan.
Thank you so much for helping me understand this! I was able to visualize the modes with dymmodes2xyz.pl script! Have a nice day!
Regards,
Keerthan.